Seeking info about DeepSeek? There’s so much info out there in just a few days that I decided to consolidate it in a unique way.
There has been a lot reported about DeepSeek over the past week or so, in terms of: 1) its potential to be a major disruptor in the global AI landscape, 2) how its models challenge the prevailing narrative of needing ever-larger models and massive computing resources to achieve state-of-the-art AI, 3) which leads to potential significant cost reductions in training, 4) which (in turn) has led to excitement and anxiety (especially in the markets, with Nvidia experiencing a historical drop in stock value), 5) and geopolitical implications, potential privacy concerns and other potential consequences.
Over the past few days, I’ve been reading a lot about it, so I thought I would share some terrific articles about DeepSeek that I’ve been reading. They range from major news publications (e.g., Time, The New York Times and CNBC) to people with ties to legal tech (e.g., Rob Robinson, Stephanie Wilkins, Eric De Grasse and Gregory Bufithis) and tech publications (e.g., The Verge, Wired, Ars Technica and Tom’s Hardware, which reported on DeepSeek a month ago!). I have shared links to fifteen of those articles below – if you’re seeking info about DeepSeek, these are great resources to check out.
Since many of you don’t have time to read them all, I figured I would attempt to consolidate the highlights about DeepSeek. But, since I’m lazy and busy, I decided to use AI (what else?) to take a stab at those consolidated highlights. So, I loaded all 15 stories into NotebookLM and generated a briefing document (which is below the links). It breaks my TL;DR standard for blog posts, but is hopefully useful and provides summary insights (I make no guarantees that the quotes captured in the briefing are 100% accurate, so keep that in mind).
Stories About DeepSeek
- DeepSeek: Frequently Asked Questions, from Charlie Guo at Artificial Ignorance
- How does DeepSeek R1 really fare against OpenAI’s best reasoning models?, from Kyle Orland at Ars Technica
- Why Is Everyone Talking About DeepSeek?, from Stephanie Wilkins at LegalTech Hub
- DeepSeek’s Disruption: A New Era in Global Tech Competition, from Rob Robinson at ComplexDiscovery
- DeepSeek’s New AI Model Sparks Shock, Awe, and Questions From US Competitors, from Will Knight at Wired
- They Invested Billions. Then the A.I. Script Got Flipped., from Erin Griffith at The New York Times
- Future of DeepSeek, Like TikTok, May Come Down to Trump’s Whims, from Philip Elliott at Time
- Inside China, DeepSeek Provides a National Mic Drop Moment, from Li Yuan at The New York Times
- What in hell is DeepSeek and why has it blown-up the artificial intelligence ecosystem?, from Eric De Grasse at Project Counsel Media
- Chinese AI company says breakthroughs enabled creating a leading-edge AI model with 11X less compute — DeepSeek’s optimizations could highlight limits of US sanctions, from Anton Shilov at Tom’s Hardware
- Huh. So Sam Altman and his AI bros were lying through their teeth all along., from Gregory Bufithis
- U.S. Navy bans use of DeepSeek due to ‘security and ethical concerns’, from Hayden Field at CNBC
- OpenAI has evidence that its models helped train China’s DeepSeek / Oh, the irony., from Jess Weatherbed at The Verge
- Let’s give DeepSeek and the Chinese credit for one big thing: showing why sanctions fail, from Eric De Grasse at Project Counsel Media
- DeepSeek’s top-ranked AI app is restricting sign-ups due to ‘malicious attacks’, from Jess Weatherbed at The Verge
Briefing Document
DeepSeek: AI’s Sputnik Moment (generated by NotebookLM, no QC check performed on content or quotes, so keep that in mind)
Executive Summary:
DeepSeek, a Chinese AI startup, has emerged as a major disruptor in the global AI landscape with the release of its DeepSeek-V3 language model and its associated technologies like the R1 and R1-Zero models. These models challenge the prevailing narrative of needing ever-larger models and massive computing resources to achieve state-of-the-art AI. DeepSeek’s innovative approach, emphasizing efficiency and optimization, has led to significant cost reductions in training and has sparked both excitement and anxiety within the tech industry. The development also underscores the potential for non-Western nations to play an increasingly prominent role in technological advancements. The sources also highlight the geopolitical implications, potential privacy concerns, and the unexpected consequences of US chip export controls on AI innovation.
Key Themes and Ideas:
Computational Efficiency and Cost Reduction:
- DeepSeek’s Breakthrough: DeepSeek has achieved a significant reduction in computing power needed to train its models. The DeepSeek-V3 model, with 671 billion parameters, was trained with 11x less compute than Meta’s Llama 3 model. They claim a training cost of only $5.5 million for V3. “DeepSeek has claimed that they were able to train their V3 model for $5.5 million – roughly a tenth of the amount Meta spent on its latest open source model, Llama 3.”
- Optimization Techniques: DeepSeek used advanced pipeline algorithms, optimized communication frameworks, low-precision computations (FP8), and the DualPipe algorithm for overlapping computation and communication. They utilized customized PTX instructions for low-level GPU optimization. “DeepSeek used the DualPipe algorithm to overlap computation and communication phases within and across forward and backward micro-batches and, therefore, reduced pipeline inefficiencies.”
- Challenging the Status Quo: DeepSeek’s achievements demonstrate that advanced models can be trained using relatively limited resources, challenging the belief that state-of-the-art AI requires massive GPU investments. “And in doing so, DeepSeek has challenged one of the core assumptions of the AI boom: that building state-of-the-art AI systems will require billions in additional hardware investment.”
- Implications: This development could potentially lower the barrier to entry for smaller companies and startups in AI, and it puts pressure on the profitability of big tech companies focused on consumer AI. “It will put pressure on the profitability of companies which are focused on consumer AI.”
Geopolitical Implications and US Chip Sanctions:
- Circumventing Sanctions: DeepSeek has reportedly managed to develop its models without directly violating US export controls by using Nvidia H800 chips, which were designed to comply with export restrictions. The H800 chips are less powerful than the H100, but DeepSeek optimized their models and training to circumvent the limitations of the hardware, using low-level programming on the cards themselves. “The company built its systems primarily using Nvidia H800 chips – hardware specifically designed to comply with the original October 2022 bans.”
- Unintended Consequences: The US chip ban may have inadvertently spurred innovation in China, forcing companies like DeepSeek to develop highly efficient AI training methods. “What’s particularly interesting is how these restrictions might have inadvertently spurred innovation. Rather than violating export controls, DeepSeek appears to have adapted to them by developing highly efficient training architectures that require less computing power.”
- Questioning Effectiveness of Sanctions: The DeepSeek case calls into question the effectiveness of US sanctions in preventing Chinese technological advancement, as it demonstrates China’s capability to innovate despite restrictions. “The longer that sanctions are applied, the more likely it is that countries will find ways to circumvent them — or in the case of DeepSeek, simply outsmart them.”
- The “Sneaky” Side: DeepSeek took advantage of a window before new restrictions were implemented to secure H800 chips. This led US officials to say that while they didn’t break the law, they broke the spirit of it. “A year after the initial controls, the government tightened the rules. Still, that left an opening of about a year for DeepSeek to buy Nvidia’s powerful China-market chip, called the H800.”
- New Anti-Western Alliance: The US actions may have pushed China and Russia into a new anti-Western alliance, further complicating geopolitical dynamics. “But going further down the road, perhaps the most disastrous geopolitical effect is that what the U.S. actually did was to pull China and Russia into a new anti-Western strategic alliance.”
Market Reaction and Economic Impact:
- Nvidia Stock Plunge: DeepSeek’s announcement caused a historic drop in Nvidia’s stock price, with a $600 billion single-day loss. This reflects investors’ concerns about the potential disruption of the AI hardware market. “Nvidia experienced the largest single-day stock drop ever on Monday, wiping out nearly $600 billion in market value.” “News of its performance capabilities sent Nvidia stocks tumbling (to the tune of a $593 million market cap loss, a single-day record).”
- Reevaluation of Investment Strategies: The efficiency of DeepSeek’s approach has led to Wall Street questioning the need for continued massive investments in AI hardware from tech giants. “As a result, Wall Street is now questioning whether tech giants like Microsoft, Alphabet, and Meta need to maintain their current level of investment in Nvidia’s hardware. The success of more efficient approaches to AI development suggests that future models might require fewer GPUs.”
- Wider Market Downturn: The tech-heavy Nasdaq and S&P 500 indexes also suffered considerable losses, indicating broader investor concerns about the implications of DeepSeek’s emergence. “The Nasdaq composite index experienced a substantial decline of approximately 3.6%, while the S&P 500 dropped by about 2%.”
- Start-up Energy: The DeepSeek situation has energized startups in AI, who see an opportunity for disruption. “DeepSeek has energized start-ups, said Niko Bonatsos, a venture capital investor at General Catalyst.”
Model Capabilities and Performance:
- Competitive Performance: DeepSeek claims its DeepSeek-v3 MoE model is comparable to or better than leading models like GPT-4x, Claude-3.5-Sonnet, and Llama-3.1. “When it comes to performance, the company says the DeepSeek-v3 MoE language model is comparable to or better than GPT-4x, Claude-3.5-Sonnet, and LLlama-3.1, depending on the benchmark.”
- Reasoning Focus: DeepSeek’s R1 and R1-Zero models demonstrate a focus on reasoning capabilities, moving away from simply scaling up model size. R1-Zero, in particular, achieved impressive results in reasoning benchmarks by leveraging pure reinforcement learning. “In this paper, we take the first step toward improving language model reasoning capabilities using pure reinforcement learning (RL). Our goal is to explore the potential of LLMs to develop reasoning capabilities without any supervised data, focusing on their self-evolution through a pure RL process.”
- Mixed Results: Testing of the R1 model against OpenAI’s models showed mixed results, with DeepSeek excelling in creative writing and math (finding the billionth prime) but failing on tasks involving more basic tasks like arithmetic. “DeepSeek’s R1 model definitely distinguished itself by citing reliable sources to identify the billionth prime number and with some quality creative writing… However, the model failed on the hidden code and complex number set prompts, making basic errors in counting and/or arithmetic that one or both of the OpenAI models avoided.”
Open Source and Accessibility:
- Open Model: DeepSeek has open-sourced its core models under the MIT license, allowing anyone to download and modify the technology. “For developers and organizations, DeepSeek has open-sourced their core models under the MIT license, allowing anyone to download and modify the technology.”
- Lower Barrier to Entry: This open-source approach, coupled with low training costs, makes DeepSeek an accessible option for many developers. “Barrier to entry: R1 is an open-source model, meaning its underlying code is publicly available for free. Combine that with its low computational costs, and it’s an attractive option for many developers who couldn’t previously afford to compete.”
- Challenge to Model Control: The open nature of DeepSeek’s release undermines the model control efforts of companies like OpenAI. “The arrogance in this statement is only surpassed by the futility: here we are six years later, and the entire world has access to the weights of a dramatically superior model. OpenAI’s gambit for control — enforced by the U.S. government — has utterly failed.”
Privacy and Security Concerns:
- Data Collection: DeepSeek’s Terms of Service allow for user data to be sent back to China and used for training future models. “On privacy, DeepSeek’s Terms of Service do allow for 1) sending the data back to China and 2) using it to train future models.”
- Censorship: DeepSeek models are subject to Chinese censorship regulations and will often block topics related to Chinese political topics. “Under government regulations, A.I. models that serve consumers are subject to censorship rules.”
- National Security: The US Navy has banned the use of DeepSeek by its members due to security concerns. “The U.S. Navy has instructed its members to avoid using artificial intelligence technology from China’s DeepSeek, CNBC has learned.”
Strategic and Competitive Shift
- End of the Beginning: DeepSeek’s emergence is viewed as a significant shift in AI development, changing the landscape. The quote: “This is the End of the Beginning of AI” encapsulates this shift.
- Democratization of AI: The focus on reasoning and efficiency over massive scale has democratized the space and allowed for a wider range of developers and innovators to have success. “It’s a paradigm shift towards reasoning, and that will be much more democratized,”
- Chinese “Mic Drop”: In China, DeepSeek’s success is seen as a major technological victory and a testament to the country’s innovation capabilities. “Inside China, it was called the tipping point for the global technological rivalry with the United States and the “darkest hour” in Silicon Valley, evoking Winston Churchill.”
- Distillation: DeepSeek may have used distillation to improve their model, which is an often-used method of training models by extracting knowledge from another. “Distillation is a means of extracting understanding from another model; you can send inputs to the teacher model and record the outputs, and use that to train the student model.”
Conclusion:
DeepSeek’s emergence represents a pivotal moment in AI development. Its focus on efficiency and optimization, coupled with the open-source release of its models, has significantly altered the competitive landscape. While its technical achievements are impressive, the associated geopolitical and privacy concerns cannot be ignored. The DeepSeek story highlights the complexities of international technology competition and the need for adaptability and innovation in a rapidly evolving field. The company serves to showcase the potential of countries outside the US to make significant breakthroughs, and the limits of existing US policy to effectively prevent this competition.
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